tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post1484226701962227317..comments2024-03-23T12:05:13.464-07:00Comments on Ideas: Protecting ChildrenDavid Friedmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06543763515095867595noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-78625246820127737022021-09-26T10:51:50.279-07:002021-09-26T10:51:50.279-07:00I don't have a citation handy, but my memory i...I don't have a citation handy, but my memory is that there was a study in Sweden comparing COVID rates between school teachers (Sweden never mandated masks in schools as far as I understand, nor ever closed schools) and other occupations, and there was no statistically significant difference.Average Radicalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03638297862974784415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-25474337435852956202021-09-26T05:06:02.017-07:002021-09-26T05:06:02.017-07:00We do need to consider negative outcomes other tha...We do need to consider negative outcomes other than death.<br /><br />For example, at least a year ago a nasty and extremely painful multiple-organ syndrome, "multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C)", was identified that appeared in children (not adults) who had been exposed to COVID but showed few or no typical COVID symptoms. I haven't heard much about it in recent months, but it's still mentioned on the Mayo Clinic's <a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-in-babies-and-children/art-20484405" rel="nofollow">web page on juvenile COVID</a>, and the <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mis/mis-c.html" rel="nofollow">CDC has a page about it</a> too. It's still sorta mysterious<br /><br />And of course, if ordinary COVID causes lasting organ damage, the cost of that is obviously greater for somebody with a pre-COVID life expectancy of 70 years than for somebody with a life expectancy of 20 years.SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09786720503589745463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-51143691988121862182021-09-25T23:27:01.384-07:002021-09-25T23:27:01.384-07:00I checked the CDC Wonder tool (https://wonder.cdc....I checked the CDC Wonder tool (https://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10.html) to find the number of <18 pneumonia deaths each year (using ICD codes J12-J18). In 2018 there were 295 deaths and in 2019 there were 272.<br /><br />The 966 number from your link (from 1/2020 to 9/2021) would imply a rate of roughly 550 deaths per year... Not sure the reason for the discrepancy. Maybe some of the covid deaths are being double-counted?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-25702668160193615122021-09-25T22:05:57.420-07:002021-09-25T22:05:57.420-07:00I got the pneumonia statistic from:
https://data....I got the pneumonia statistic from:<br /><br />https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku<br /><br />It's in "Table Preview" ages 0-17. Deaths from Covid are 464, from pneumonia 966.<br /><br />Did I get something wrong?David Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06543763515095867595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-87355432037491327942021-09-25T21:27:09.818-07:002021-09-25T21:27:09.818-07:00Where are you getting the pneumonia statistic? Acc...Where are you getting the pneumonia statistic? According to Table 2 in this (https://www.lung.org/getmedia/98f088b5-3fd7-4c43-a490-ba8f4747bd4d/pi-trend-report.pdf.pdf), in the US only roughly 250-350 children <15 die from pneumonia per yearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-61244950385813515372021-09-25T17:13:43.475-07:002021-09-25T17:13:43.475-07:00The death rate may be low, but that is cherry-pick...The death rate may be low, but that is cherry-picking one statistic to make your point. Surely you would agree that preventing sickness in children is also valuable, I.e. cases that don’t lead to death but significant suffering? There are a number of places that have run out of pediatric ICU beds because of COVID cases, what makes you think that if all children stopped wearing masks that wouldn’t happen more?<br /><br />I don’t know the relevant numbers to the questions I raised, but maybe it would be more responsible to only start calling something a lie after you have looked into a slightly broader set of objectives?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-49492730753491357022021-09-25T15:01:55.138-07:002021-09-25T15:01:55.138-07:00Nobody is leading it. One reason to write stories ...Nobody is leading it. One reason to write stories that focus on the very rare case of a child dying of Covid is that it makes a better story. One reason is that it supports policies being pushed by the President and his supporters. <br /><br />The best reason is the reasonable believe that getting kids vaccinated will reduce infections among adults, who are much more at risk, and that the false narrative is more persuasive than the true. I don't think that is a sufficient reason because I think misleading people, even for good reasons, has bad long term effects, but obviously some people disagree. Fauci made it obvious in a NYT interview some time back that what he tells the public is some compromise between what he thinks is true and what he wants the public to believe.David Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06543763515095867595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-80349116566557203342021-09-25T13:29:08.155-07:002021-09-25T13:29:08.155-07:00And who is leading this grand conspiracy to deciev...And who is leading this grand conspiracy to decieve the public? <br /><br />Please say Soros, that would be pretty funny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com