tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post2693401265575559362..comments2024-03-23T12:05:13.464-07:00Comments on Ideas: Instead of Affirmative ActionDavid Friedmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06543763515095867595noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-13370859104195218672021-12-03T00:45:02.084-08:002021-12-03T00:45:02.084-08:00I was wondering on another solution though it may ...I was wondering on another solution though it may be a too expensive for the universities - on the other hand maybe they are able to find founding from all the PC/diversity companies like goolag or tracebook if they really believe in their declared values. What if the universities got rid of all the non meritocratic criteria and based the admission on the entry level exam only and instead of the affirmative action and all these preferential policies they would offer a free one year, fully founded preparation course for low SES students - so the people would live in the colleagues and attended a specially designed lectures / training that would focus on preparing them to pass the entry exam and to develop skills that would help them in further education - basically the goal would be to eliminate/reduce the disadvantage they might have due to their low SES. After one year they would be sent to normal entry level exams together with anybody else and the admission would be based on the exam score only without any additional preference given to them?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-23745882411356825382021-12-02T21:42:12.141-08:002021-12-02T21:42:12.141-08:00My reading of the proposal is that it hinges on br...My reading of the proposal is that it hinges on bringing people up on the basis of their expected results being on par, so on the expectation that they would be able to keep up once admitted.<br /><br />What DF seems to be proposing is simply to explore whether "being able to keep up" can be at least partially predicted by SES, all else being equal. In practice I'd tend to agree that it wouldn't beyond the degree already accounted for by scholarships, but why not run the numbers I guess.Arqidukahttp://mendimeterastit.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-66061990676430035732021-12-02T19:08:38.077-08:002021-12-02T19:08:38.077-08:00I agree that racial affirmative action at colleges...I agree that racial affirmative action at colleges has the bad effects you indicate. But I don't see why affirmative action for low SES groups would be any better. You'd have the same problem of students being at the bottom of their class not being able to keep up. And I don't understand the benefit of intentionally bringing up a lower class person into the middle or upper class. Who is in each class is a zero sum game -- if you add another lower class person to the college, that means one less middle class person in the college, and if one more person comes out of the lower class, it means one more person moves down into the lower class.<br /><br />Of course this doesn't mean colleges shouldn't give scholarships to brilliant lower class students that CAN keep up. But I think colleges already do this, so I think you are suggesting something else.Mark V Andersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19727420.post-6474833543097964122021-11-26T20:27:48.499-08:002021-11-26T20:27:48.499-08:00I suspect Affirmative Action is working well for i...I suspect Affirmative Action is working well for it's intended purpose. You just have the wrong idea about what its purpose is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com